This episode contains descriptions of violence.

In the two years since the United States pulled out of Afghanistan, the Taliban has shut women and girls out of public life.

Christina Goldbaum, a correspondent in the Kabul bureau for The New York Times, traveled across Afghanistan to talk to women about how they’re managing the changes. What she found was not what she had expected.

Guest: Christina Goldbaum, a correspondent in the Times bureau in Kabul, the capital of Afghanistan.

Background reading:

• The Taliban’s takeover ended decades of war. But their restrictions, and the economic fallout, have thrown many women into a new era of diminished hopes.
• In an uncommon display of consensus, the U.N. Security Council has called for the Taliban to end their prohibitions on women working and attending school after sixth grade.

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